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| 01:56:19 | evan | I love Open Source. |
| 01:56:25 | evan | and William Morgan. |
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| 02:11:58 | evan | for those interested: http://blog.fallingsnow.net/2008/05/23/simple-vm-jit-with-llvm/ |
| 02:13:36 | brixen | sweet |
| 02:13:50 | brixen | evan: you see williams' patch on the ml? |
| 02:14:01 | evan | did he send a patch too |
| 02:14:03 | evan | OMG |
| 02:14:19 | evan | i don't see a patch |
| 02:14:23 | evan | just the discussion of inlining |
| 02:14:28 | evan | which just plain ROCKS. |
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| 02:20:03 | brixen | heh, I didn't see the inlining discussion yet |
| 02:20:17 | evan | ah |
| 02:20:18 | evan | yeah |
| 02:20:19 | brixen | reads |
| 02:20:21 | evan | he's sharp. |
| 02:20:27 | brixen | yeah, I still had it open to his patch |
| 02:21:04 | evan | he's covered most (maybe all) things to solve to inline |
| 02:21:13 | evan | that I can come up with |
| 02:21:32 | evan | oh, there is another. |
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| 03:32:13 | Defiler | Hrm. We have any oniguruma wiring experts around? |
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| 05:03:13 | defn | hello |
| 05:09:06 | brixen | hi defn |
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| 06:55:20 | GitHub190 | mspec: Brian Ford master SHA1-f54c60a |
| 06:55:20 | GitHub190 | Fix ruby_version_is guard to use Integers for performance on 1.9. |
| 06:55:20 | GitHub190 | http://github.com/brixen/mspec/commit/f54c60ac9c4ac2c62b3d807d7b5f31666a7414f4 |
| 06:55:21 | GitHub190 | mspec: Brian Ford master SHA1-4218fed |
| 06:55:23 | GitHub190 | Fixed ruby_bug guard to use Integers internally. |
| 06:55:25 | GitHub190 | http://github.com/brixen/mspec/commit/4218fed7333151c4fd737056aee4175a5cd1638a |
| 06:55:27 | GitHub190 | mspec: Brian Ford master SHA1-9e4dd3a |
| 06:55:29 | GitHub190 | Fixed spec failures for html formatter. |
| 06:55:31 | GitHub190 | http://github.com/brixen/mspec/commit/9e4dd3abfbdf8f87c455414647f1070a5a6d39f5 |
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| 06:55:41 | brixen | heh, oops |
| 06:56:16 | brixen | that was supposed to go into #rubyspec |
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| 08:23:24 | boyscout | 4 commits by Brian Ford |
| 08:23:25 | boyscout | * Updated RubySpec submodule to 5f783c7e.; fc5cdab |
| 08:23:26 | boyscout | * Added auto-commit to spec:sync.; 017a611 |
| 08:23:27 | boyscout | * Added auto-commit to mspec:sync.; 90a19f2 |
| 08:23:28 | boyscout | * Updated MSpec submodule to 9e4dd3ab; b94b2b5 |
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| 08:33:31 | rubuildius_amd64 | Brian Ford: fc5cdabbb; 2188 files, 7243 examples, 25916 expectations, 15 failures, 4 errors; http://rafb.net/p/rzC3K645.html |
| 08:36:49 | rubuildius_ppc | Brian Ford: fc5cdabbb; 2188 files, 7273 examples, 25976 expectations, 15 failures, 12 errors; http://rafb.net/p/QkVYKl42.html |
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| 09:05:13 | boyscout | 2 commits by Brian Ford |
| 09:05:14 | boyscout | * Updated CI excludes for updated rubyspecs.; 68f8a99 |
| 09:05:15 | boyscout | * Fixed commit msg for [m]spec:sync tasks.; 7971873 |
| 09:13:28 | rubuildius_amd64 | Brian Ford: 68f8a99c1; 2188 files, 7223 examples, 25898 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
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| 09:17:58 | rubuildius_ppc | Brian Ford: 68f8a99c1; 2188 files, 7245 examples, 25954 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
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| 13:03:58 | rubuildius_ppc | Brian Ford: 68f8a99c1; 2188 files, 7245 examples, 25954 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
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| 21:07:30 | luislavena | hello guys. |
| 21:08:13 | luislavena | I'm looking at the Dir#close specs and found they are too tightly integrated with FD stuff... |
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| 21:09:07 | luislavena | (use of IO.sysopen and File.for_fd) which is not good for cross-platform :-) |
| 21:10:37 | brixen | luislavena: but those methods do exist on some platforms |
| 21:10:50 | brixen | you can try to generalize the Dir specs, as long as they still test the same stuff |
| 21:10:59 | brixen | but you're probably going to need guards for the specs |
| 21:11:11 | brixen | unless you want to make windows a sane OS :P |
| 21:11:36 | luislavena | brixen: the issu is that dirs don't provide _file_ descriptors :-P |
| 21:11:58 | luislavena | brixen: windows a sane OS? that's insane :-P |
| 21:11:58 | brixen | dirs on *windows* don't :) |
| 21:12:17 | brixen | dirs on the *nixes do |
| 21:12:35 | luislavena | brixen: yep, and just discussed with Vlad about jruby too, no FD stuff for they neither :-P |
| 21:12:52 | brixen | yeah, those are really tough areas to get x-platform |
| 21:13:00 | luislavena | brixen: http://pastie.caboo.se/private/dns6nbc8hcat5xki9dhftq |
| 21:13:31 | luislavena | that is highly coupled with FD, that is good? |
| 21:13:48 | brixen | well, that spec is too coupled imo |
| 21:14:07 | brixen | I wouldn't do all that |
| 21:14:21 | brixen | I'd just follow the rdoc |
| 21:14:28 | brixen | i.e. Dir#close => nil |
| 21:14:30 | brixen | and |
| 21:14:41 | luislavena | brixen: yep, that's what I thought we should do. |
| 21:14:45 | brixen | Any further attempts to access _dir_will raise an +IOError+ |
| 21:14:51 | brixen | yeah, that makes more sense |
| 21:15:26 | luislavena | yeah, "behavior" and not all that unit/test kind of stuff ;-) |
| 21:17:30 | brixen | yeah |
| 21:17:42 | brixen | grabbing some food, bbl.. |
| 21:17:50 | luislavena | brixen: it seems the shared spec for it actually doing that :-P |
| 21:17:57 | luislavena | brixen: ok, good luck :-) |
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| 21:36:22 | evan | morning / afternoon |
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| 21:37:38 | luislavena | evan: good afternoon man. |
| 21:40:18 | luislavena | evan: quicky, what do you think about this: http://pastie.caboo.se/private/dns6nbc8hcat5xki9dhftq |
| 21:40:27 | luislavena | evan: doesn't look highly coupled? |
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| 21:45:09 | luislavena | vertiginous: hey gordon :-) |
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| 21:46:17 | vertiginous | hey luis |
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| 22:25:02 | vincentlu | hello |
| 22:25:08 | vincentlu | I am trying to build rubinius with readline installed in a customized path. Is there some way I can do something similar to "./configure --with-readline-dir" ? |
| 22:27:19 | vincentlu | MRI source has a configure file so --with-readline-dir works. |
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| 23:15:03 | evan | luislavena: yeah, i'd argue that that is impl. detail |
| 23:16:14 | luislavena | evan: thank you, wanted to be sure that my brain can still distill that kind of stuff (been doing a bit of assembler lately) :-P |
| 23:20:20 | evan | sweet! assembler! |
| 23:20:27 | evan | i was doing LLVM assembler yesterday |
| 23:20:32 | evan | it's much easier than real assembler |
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| 23:22:01 | gramos | hello |
| 23:25:04 | evan | hi |
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| 23:25:59 | gramos | evan: what's LLVM assembler ? |
| 23:29:32 | luislavena | evan: haven't played with it, good docs or RTFS? (read the f*cking source) ? |
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| 23:32:47 | evan | luislavena: i've gone through the tutorials and docs a bit |
| 23:32:56 | evan | I try not to read the source out of the gate |
| 23:33:03 | evan | did a blog post on it last night |
| 23:33:12 | ezmobius | yeah nice post |
| 23:33:14 | evan | http://blog.fallingsnow.net/2008/05/23/simple-vm-jit-with-llvm/ |
| 23:33:20 | evan | ezmobius: thanks |
| 23:33:44 | luislavena | even: checking it out ;-) |
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| 23:39:55 | antares | evan: are you going to incorporate LLVM soon or after C++ VM becomes stable? |
| 23:40:15 | evan | antares: not sure yet. |
| 23:40:27 | rictic | This is surely a silly question, but I cloned the git repo, ran rake, then rake spec:full, and now I'd like to look at the RubySpecs, but I don't see a directory at spec/ruby |
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| 23:40:29 | evan | there is a possibility that i'll do LLVM sooner rather than later. |
| 23:40:38 | rictic | I see spec/frozen and others, but not spec/ruby |
| 23:40:52 | antares | evan: what are you going to use it for? |
| 23:40:52 | evan | rictic: do spec:init |
| 23:41:13 | evan | antares: execution of methods, basically eliminating all bytecode dispatch |
| 23:41:21 | rictic | evan: Thanks! |
| 23:41:31 | evan | rictic: no prob. |
| 23:41:42 | evan | antares: shotgun has a threaded interpreter mode |
| 23:41:51 | evan | which uses gcc's label-as-value extension |
| 23:42:00 | evan | to convert bytecode into an array of addresses |
| 23:42:04 | evan | that code is a pain. |
| 23:42:16 | evan | so i'm thinking of just forgoing porting it to the new VM |
| 23:42:19 | luislavena | evan: that's low level but high level of the asm I was playing with :-D |
| 23:42:21 | evan | and just going straight to LLVM. |
| 23:42:33 | evan | luislavena: yeah, thats the great part about it |
| 23:42:39 | evan | it's both low and high level at the same time. |
| 23:42:44 | antares | evan: sounds great |
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| 23:43:15 | luislavena | evan: I was doing hard core embedded asm for ateml microcontrollers :-D |
| 23:43:23 | evan | wow. |
| 23:43:25 | luislavena | s/ateml/atmel |
| 23:43:30 | evan | hardcore. |
| 23:43:41 | evan | i've never done that kind of thing |
| 23:43:51 | luislavena | evan: is fun, when you get it working :-D |
| 23:44:00 | evan | closest was using powerview to layout curcuits and load them into an FPGA |
| 23:44:05 | luislavena | evan: debug is a hell, thank god there are emulators! |
| 23:44:11 | evan | heh |
| 23:44:11 | evan | yeah |
| 23:44:23 | evan | i guess back in college, I did use MIPS assembly directly |
| 23:44:35 | evan | we always just used the emulator, spim, to run the code |
| 23:44:37 | luislavena | evan: always wanted play with FPGA, never took a course for that :-P |
| 23:44:44 | evan | because we didn't even have a MIPS machine to use |
| 23:44:52 | evan | MIPS just because it's so darn nice. |
| 23:45:33 | evan | luislavena: yeah FPGAs are cool. at some time in the far off future, i've always wanted to program an FPGA to run rubinius bytecode |
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| 23:51:34 | luislavena | evan: that reminds me some attempts to bring java bytecode to embedded devices :P |
| 23:56:11 | evan | heh |
| 23:56:20 | VVSiz | hey, java bytecode *is* running on embedded devices! I still have my JavaRing with small VM inside it ;) |
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| 23:56:35 | evan | it will probably take me 5 years before I have time to play with FPGAs again |
| 23:56:42 | luislavena | VVSiz: missed the part of "my" attempts... |
| 23:56:52 | VVSiz | oh! :) |
| 23:57:12 | evan | so, who's going to be in portland next week? |
| 23:57:20 | luislavena | VVSiz: and failed, Java doesn't like me :-D |