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| 07:54:10 | mass | waves hello |
| 07:57:55 | evan | wall-E is very awesome. |
| 07:58:32 | headius | howdy |
| 07:58:39 | evan | hey. |
| 07:58:54 | headius | evan: I was asking about $~ and $_ earlier...seems like you haven't moved $_ to MethodContext yet, right? |
| 07:59:03 | evan | nope |
| 07:59:30 | headius | ok, any particular reason why? seems like $~ is already there |
| 08:00:07 | headius | $_ gets modified across calls and even across threads as it is |
| 08:00:21 | evan | i know. |
| 08:00:29 | evan | just haven't bothered to. |
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| 08:04:05 | headius | okeedoke |
| 08:04:59 | evan | no sinister reason. |
| 08:05:04 | evan | :D |
| 08:12:43 | headius | heheh, no, I didn't think so |
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| 08:31:18 | headius | mm, got zlib.rb to load with jruby-ffi |
| 08:35:21 | NoKarma | headius: cool |
| 08:35:40 | headius | yeah |
| 08:36:07 | headius | think I might work with wmeissner to push a 0.0.1 release |
| 08:36:40 | headius | only tweaks I had to make were hardcoding the zlib version and renaming to zlib2 because otherwise rubygems pulls in our zlib library first, and they conflict |
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| 10:07:22 | boyscout | 1 commit by Gianluigi Spagnuolo |
| 10:07:23 | boyscout | * Updated BigDecimal#mult and BigDecimal#divmod; a15b09b |
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| 10:17:38 | rubuildius_ey64 | Gianluigi Spagnuolo: a15b09be0; 2534 files, 8411 examples, 28018 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
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| 10:20:41 | rubuildius_amd64 | Gianluigi Spagnuolo: a15b09be0; 2534 files, 8411 examples, 28020 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
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| 18:02:34 | rue | Finally found the lost kitty |
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| 18:04:16 | brixen | rue: was it the one chewing on your network cable? :P |
| 18:06:36 | rue | No, I think that problem is still unresolved |
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| 18:07:14 | rue | This is the one that had slipped outside for a stroll Friday |
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| 18:15:37 | Arjen | dtrace_probes.c:117:7: warning: no newline at end of file |
| 18:16:33 | Arjen | When building rubinius on Ubuntu 8.04. |
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| 18:35:51 | Arjen | I installed libssl-dev to complete building rubinius on Ubuntu 8.04, could (and should?) that be added to the installation page on lighthouse? |
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| 19:00:14 | brixen | Arjen_: I added it to the Ubuntu section at the bottom |
| 19:00:25 | Arjen | brixen, thanks! |
| 19:00:38 | brixen | n/p |
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| 19:02:44 | Arjen | I get 2 failed specs when runnign with spec:full in ./spec/frozen/1.8/core/dir/shared/glob.rb, is that expected? They don't seem to fail when I run them directly (but not sure if I'm running correctly). |
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| 20:49:12 | djwhitt | http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.xml |
| 20:49:32 | djwhitt | might be relevant for those hacking the C++ VM |
| 20:49:49 | brainopia | http://pastebin.org/47040 - this code runs differently for rubinius in comparison to mri, ruby 1.9 and jruby |
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| 20:50:41 | brainopia | rubinius uses redefined <=> operator with sort |
| 20:51:04 | brainopia | and other vendors doesn't |
| 20:51:07 | drbrain | I hate pastebin |
| 20:51:10 | brainopia | don't* |
| 20:51:17 | drbrain | can't cut and paste from the code listing |
| 20:51:19 | brainopia | pastie.org is down |
| 20:51:27 | djwhitt | drbrain use the code at the bottom |
| 20:51:41 | drbrain | rafb.net/paste |
| 20:51:58 | drbrain | djwhitt: too confusing to remember |
| 20:52:04 | djwhitt | http://rafb.net/p/GxdidC70.html |
| 20:52:05 | brainopia | drbrain: ok, next time i will know |
| 20:52:07 | djwhitt | there you go ;) |
| 20:52:18 | drbrain | brainopia: not your fault :) |
| 20:52:41 | drbrain | I should complain to them instead |
| 20:52:44 | drbrain | :D |
| 20:52:57 | brainopia | so is this behavior of rubinius a bug or not? |
| 20:53:36 | drbrain | I think we'll have to ask matz |
| 20:53:49 | djwhitt | seems like Rubinius behavior is actually more intuitive ... |
| 20:53:51 | drbrain | can you put a ticket on the tracker anyhow? |
| 20:53:52 | brainopia | yeah |
| 20:54:12 | brainopia | do you mean redmine-one? |
| 20:54:22 | drbrain | since 1.9 and 1.8 have different behavior, it may be 1.8 bug |
| 20:54:36 | drbrain | but, one that isn't going to be fixed for backwards compatibility |
| 20:54:38 | djwhitt | brainopia: http://rafb.net/p/GxdidC70.html |
| 20:54:40 | djwhitt | err... |
| 20:54:49 | djwhitt | brainopia: http://rubinius.lighthouseapp.com/projects/5089-rubinius/overview |
| 20:55:00 | brainopia | ok |
| 20:55:03 | brainopia | i see |
| 20:55:11 | jbarnette | sanity check before I write a spec and patch dir.rb: everyone feel like this is legit? |
| 20:55:12 | jbarnette | require 'pathname'; Dir.glob(Pathname.new('.') + "*") |
| 20:55:33 | jbarnette | works on mri, but Pathname complains about being ducked like a String for split in our dir.rb |
| 20:56:01 | drbrain | jbarnette: that should work in rubinius |
| 20:56:09 | drbrain | we're not using the same Pathname AFAIK |
| 20:56:43 | jbarnette | drbrain: it understandably dies on line 186 of self.glob_brace_expand in dir.rb |
| 20:56:54 | jbarnette | drbrain: where we try to call pathname.split with an argument |
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| 20:57:44 | jbarnette | drbrain: I was just going to .to_s 'pattern' where we .dup it in self.glob0 |
| 20:58:16 | drbrain | jbarnette: it may be to_str |
| 20:58:25 | drbrain | look in dir.c |
| 20:58:38 | jbarnette | drbrain: sure |
| 20:58:57 | drbrain | since Pathname has #to_str, I'm not sure which gets called |
| 20:59:08 | drbrain | it's too hot to use my laptop :( |
| 20:59:29 | jbarnette | drbrain: yeah, i'm coding from the shower with my laptop in a plastic bag |
| 20:59:34 | jbarnette | highly recommended |
| 20:59:52 | drbrain | hehe |
| 21:04:36 | evan | brainopia: i'd say thats a bug in all other implementations. |
| 21:05:15 | drbrain | evan: but since it's been fixed in 1.9, I bet we have to match it |
| 21:05:24 | evan | 'fixed'? |
| 21:05:31 | drbrain | it would have been backported by now |
| 21:05:34 | evan | how does it behave? |
| 21:05:39 | drbrain | 1.9 sorts by the redefined spaceship |
| 21:05:42 | evan | you can't change String#<=> |
| 21:05:44 | evan | ? |
| 21:05:44 | drbrain | 1.8 ignores it |
| 21:05:53 | evan | so, sounds like we're good. |
| 21:06:01 | drbrain | in 1.8 you can't, in 1.9 you can |
| 21:06:11 | evan | so they fixed the bug that was in 1.8 |
| 21:06:14 | evan | :) |
| 21:06:33 | brainopia | drbrain: 1.9 behaves the same way as 1.8 |
| 21:06:37 | drbrain | I think this is a bug we should match |
| 21:06:53 | evan | gross. |
| 21:07:51 | evan | drbrain: why do you feel that way? |
| 21:08:06 | drbrain | brainopia: sorry, you are right |
| 21:08:21 | drbrain | evan: 1.9 is also ignoring spaceship |
| 21:08:26 | evan | thats dumb. |
| 21:08:32 | evan | and very un-ruby. |
| 21:08:34 | drbrain | agreed |
| 21:08:42 | brainopia | nodes |
| 21:08:58 | evan | i don't think we should change our behavior. |
| 21:09:09 | evan | unless matz says "oh, yeah, String#<=> can't be defined." |
| 21:09:21 | brainopia | evan: are you going to continue ruby-design meetings? |
| 21:09:26 | drbrain | we should file a bug, of course |
| 21:09:30 | evan | brainopia: yeah. |
| 21:09:32 | drbrain | no need to spring to action |
| 21:09:38 | evan | yes, a red-mine ticket should be openned |
| 21:09:42 | evan | so the ruby-core team can address it. |
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| 21:13:02 | evan | man, I'm traveling a lot this month |
| 21:13:20 | evan | SF tomorrow, Portland the week after, Montana the week after that |
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| 21:14:31 | evan | for SF tomorrow, I have to get up at 3:50am :/ |
| 21:15:00 | evan | I should have just slept all the way through today. |
| 21:16:36 | brainopia | evan: http://blog.fallingsnow.net/2007/08/24/performance-benchmarks/ - you said here rubinius are mostly faster then mri, but when i tried to run benchmark today and rubinius is much slower. What happened since then? |
| 21:16:49 | evan | nothing. |
| 21:17:00 | evan | i was talking about microbenchmarks. |
| 21:17:11 | brainopia | oh, i see |
| 21:17:14 | evan | primarily, rubinius' ability to execute ruby code. |
| 21:17:20 | evan | which is significantly faster. |
| 21:17:30 | evan | but MRI isn't written in ruby at all |
| 21:17:32 | evan | it's all in C |
| 21:18:01 | brainopia | thx for explanation ;) |
| 21:18:01 | evan | and thus remains faster for anything using the builtin classes |
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| 22:17:40 | rue | Everyone else should fix their stupid sort |
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| 23:59:21 | jbarnette | committers, there's a microscopic patch to Dir.glob up on lighthouse if you have a sec: http://rubinius.lighthouseapp.com/projects/5089/tickets/620 |