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02:38:35seydarDefiler: status on autoload? something i can do?
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03:53:46headiusdrbrain: looking at this zlib thing you showed me
03:54:14headiusseems like the deflate library we're using in Java has a similar problem...I'm not sure I understand the remedy
03:54:37headiuschanging the compression level and strategy mid-flight causes deflate to produce no output
04:03:17TheProkrammerIs that even part of the standard?
04:03:53qrushwaves to TheProkrammer
04:04:43TheProkrammerwaves to qrush
04:05:28TheProkrammerCompression Level and whatnot are defined in the zlib header...
04:07:08headiusbeats me
04:07:27TheProkrammeruse zlibby :)
04:07:32headiusseems like perhaps drbrain has made a modification to flush the zlib stream when compression settings change
04:07:47headiusruby1.8 and 1.9 don't support that
04:07:53TheProkrammererr, zliby rather.
04:07:56TheProkrammerhttp://zliby.rubyforge.org/
04:08:08headiusyeah I know it :)
04:08:54TheProkrammerin order to change the compression LEVEL you'd have to read a new zlib stream, now block to block the dynamic or fixed codes can change... eh, I should get more involved I guess.
04:09:45headiusyeah, I'm a little confused...I don't see where rbx code is doing that
04:10:46headiusahh maybe I do
04:10:57headiuslooks like it does a SYNC_FLUSH for every write?
04:12:27TheProkrammerAnd it's writing multiple times per decompression?
04:12:37TheProkrammerthinks maybe it's time to update his local copy
04:12:59headiusnot sure
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04:53:45TheProkrammer"Z_SYNC_FLUSH requests that inflate() flush as much
04:53:47TheProkrammer output as possible to the output buffer."
04:55:35TheProkrammerah well, guess I should just get cracking on zliby again, then it won't matter ;)
04:55:39headiusheheh
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05:27:57drbrainTheProkrammer: you can change the strategy and level on the fly
05:28:10drbrainotherwise there wouldn't be a deflateParams()
05:29:08TheProkrammerHmm... I just don't see anything like that in RFC1950/1951
05:29:23TheProkrammerI might just be missing it though.
05:31:28drbrainI think you're looking for section 3.2.1 of rfc 1951
05:31:32drbrainerr, 3.2.3
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05:33:41TheProkrammerOh yeah, I mentioned that, you can change from dynamic to static codes (or no compression) block by block in a stream, headius said Compression METHOD though, which is in the zlib header.
05:34:03drbrainyou can set level and strategy
05:34:10drbrainbut not method
05:35:08TheProkrammerWell... level meaning no compression or whatever level was set in the header.
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05:36:42TheProkrammerspecifically, there are only three states: None, Dynamic, and Fixed.
05:37:28drbrainI have no idea about how zlib does its thing
05:37:34drbrainI only know what's in zlib.h
05:37:48TheProkrammerhehe and probably better for it.
05:37:58drbrainand it says I can change level and strategy, but maybe level only works at the beginning of the stream
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05:39:33TheProkrammerFeel free to have a peek here: http://zliby.rubyforge.org/svn/trunk/lib/zliby.rb I'd like to think it's more readable then the C implementation.
05:40:15drbrainI'd rather not :)
05:40:57drbrainyou don't have a Zlib::Deflate on your RDoc
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05:41:35TheProkrammerAh no, I've only implemented Inflate so far.
05:41:48TheProkrammerDeflate will likely be this weekend, since I'm all intrigued now.
05:42:39TheProkrammerSo nevermind for now, because I too have no idea how they implement deflate as of yet.... but I am curious how they support the dynamic level...
05:42:52drbrainrubinius' zlib may have a working deflate_params because it's not as easy to write onto a real C string
05:44:55drbrainI wonder what "the compression state is reset" means
05:45:44TheProkrammerI have to go to bed now, my brain is shutting down, but thanks for getting me to think about Zlib again... I think.
05:46:09drbrainI may have a question for you in the future
05:46:15drbrainabout flush_next_in and flush_next_out
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05:46:54TheProkrammerfeel free to email me if you like... michaelDOTletterleATgmail.com
05:46:59TheProkrammer*poofs*
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11:53:42cremesthese two write-ups on Ropes vs Strings look interesting...
11:53:43cremeshttp://www.cs.ubc.ca/local/reading/proceedings/spe91-95/spe/vol25/issue12/spe986.pdf
11:53:53cremeshttp://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-ropes/index.html
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15:28:47seydarhowdy y'all
15:29:07seydarDefiler: ping. Wumpus needs hunting.
15:29:30seydaryou said before that autoload didnt have enough information in it because it expects paths to be unique
15:30:40seydarbut what i dont understand is how that's a problem
15:31:02seydaractually, i kinda do
15:31:52seydarso now im thinking of how to add more information to @autoloads. This issue here is that Kernel#require removes the path, and that only has access to the path.
15:32:14seydarwhat we /could/ do
15:33:04seydaris use an array instead of a hash, and use Array#delete to get rid of whatever Autoload object has that path
15:33:38seydarthis *may* work because #delete will (should) only delete the first one it finds, as it would then return from the method there
15:34:42seydarand THAT would work because MAYBE
15:35:05seydarautoloads get deleted through FIFO
15:35:22seydarim gonna try that out now
15:37:01seydarok, well this fails because Array#delete is not cooperating
15:37:08seydarit wants to delete ALL objects
15:37:20seydarlame
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15:37:49seydaralthough
15:38:11seydarthat shouldn't be, i guess, because otherwise it mimics delete_if()
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15:39:09seydardammit, that makes sense but i dont want it too!
15:39:14seydarguess i'm going hardcore.
15:41:02seydaris there any way to access the internal tuple in an array?
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15:42:46seydarbeautiful, you can!
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15:46:59rooSweetness.
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15:47:40rueI am connected from the train :D
15:48:15rueseydar: You should not access the tuple from the outside
15:48:24seydarrue: hm... i do
15:48:36seydara = [1, 2, 3]; a.tuple
15:49:01seydarand i have access to start and total
15:50:30seydarshould i make those methods private?
15:51:39seydaractually, i dont even see where those methods are made
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15:53:10seydarrue: what should i do about those methods?
15:57:24seydarok i tried changing autoload to take advantage of the possibility of FIFO autoload information to no avail. code: http://pastie.org/232614
15:58:14seydarwaaaaait a minute
15:58:32seydarcouldn't an autoload object remove itself after it gets called?
15:58:45seydarthat makes sense
15:58:53seydarespecially because if we did that
15:59:12seydarwe would have access to _all_ information about it, so there is no information deficiency issue
15:59:25seydarseydar fixing autoload, take 2
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16:04:15seydargablork
16:04:17seydarit still fails
16:07:45seydarDefiler: i'm beginning to think that the bug isn't with the lack of distinction in @autoloads
16:07:55seydarbut if you really believe that it is, i can keep trying
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16:09:50seydarthis is not an easy bug
16:11:44rueseydar: That is not a part of the Array interface. Why do you need access to it to begin with?
16:12:33seydarrue: i wrote a modified version of delete for Autoload (scrapped it), and I wanted it to be as fast as possible, so i figured i would use the internal tuple
16:12:46seydarall i had to do was @array.tuple
16:12:57seydarso i should probably block off those methods
16:13:17rueNo, just use the Array. If you use the tuple, the code is thoroughly unportable
16:13:40rueseydar: Do you have a testcase that shows the autoload problem?
16:14:13seydari do, but its the yardoc binary. Defiler has one that he pastied. lemme search my logs to find
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16:16:41seydarsorry, bout that, colloquy is having trouble opening transcripts
16:18:17seydarfork, he pasted it to rafb.net and now its gone
16:18:33seydarhttp://rafb.net/p/4jqZWX42.htm, it was
16:20:24seydarim going to try to recreate it for you, rue
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16:27:16seydarrue: got it. a.rb: http://pastie.org/232629 a2.rb: http://pastie.org/232630
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16:31:00seydarrue: actually, those aren't examples. they dont work (as in they dont make an error)
16:31:36seydarso no, i dont have an example for you to look at
16:33:14seydarso Defiler, could you paste your example file when you get this?
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16:37:58seydarugh, i cant figure this out. its way out of my league
16:38:04seydarlater everybody
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18:19:52ljulliarI'm trying to commit the new ARGF spec to the rubyspec repo but it fails miserably
18:20:33ljulliarI have created a ticket on Rubyspec and the documentation says it's all you need to have a commit bit
18:20:59ljulliarI have also run rake spec:committer
18:21:45ljulliarwhile running rake spec:update I have th following error
18:21:54ljulliarUpdating rubyspec repository...
18:21:55ljulliar* Pulling in new commits...
18:21:57ljulliargit fetch
18:21:58ljulliarPermission denied (publickey).
18:22:00ljulliarfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
18:22:01ljulliarrake aborted!
18:22:03ljulliarCommand failed with status (128): [git fetch...]
18:22:05ljulliarAny idea ?
18:22:54brixensounds like it might be a problem with your ssh key on github
18:23:14brixenyou're trying to push with rake spec:push from rbx repo?
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18:23:27brixenor are you using a separate clone of rubyspec?
18:25:49brixenljulliar: actually, I haven't added you to rubyspec
18:26:13brixenljulliar: do you have an rbx commit bit or a patch accepted for rubyspec?
18:27:04brixenrubyspec ticket #40 doesn't have an attachment, do you have a patch ready?
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18:34:40ljulliarbrixen: I don't have an rbx commit bit or a patch accepted for rubyspec
18:35:02ljulliarshall I create a patch and attach it to the ticket ?
18:35:11dbussinkit anyone is interested, i'm trying to get Moment cleaned up
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18:35:22dbussinkhave some timezone detection code now, but it's pretty clunky
18:35:32dbussinkuses the same approach as java does though :P
18:36:07ljulliarbrixen: I have already done a git add and git commit locally
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18:38:07brixenljulliar: yeah, create a ticket
18:38:17brixenljulliar: use git format-patch
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18:42:06dbussinkbrixen: http://pastie.org/232659
18:42:15dbussinkwhat do you think of that as a first approach?
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18:42:38dbussinkstart of what should eventually replace the time / date / datetime mess :)
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18:42:51dbussinkand it's probably the most ugly part too
18:43:21rueToo many 't's
18:43:56dbussinkrue: how do you mean?
18:44:09dbussinki'd love some refactor suggestions :)
18:45:08fbuilesv @system_timezone ||= begin <--- First time I see a being used in that context :)
18:45:27dbussinki've seen it before ;)
18:46:35fbuilesva begin being* :P
18:46:46dbussinkbut what i don't like the most is that this is probably the least insane way of determining the current local timezone
18:46:56dbussinkthere is nothing else that provides it that i know of
18:47:02dbussinkeven the jvm does it in a similar way
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18:48:36fbuilesvdbussink: I might be being a bit naive here but a call to date can return that, right?
18:48:58dbussinkfbuilesv: that's naive ;)
18:49:12dbussinkfbuilesv: especially because the goal is to actually replace all that shit
18:49:32dbussinkand stuff like gettimeofday() give you the current timezone
18:49:39fbuilesvdbussink: I was thining of taking a look at that source and see what's going under the hood, see if there's anything i mplemented in posix for that
18:49:43ljulliarbrixen: ARGF specs patch attached to http://rubyspec.org/issues/show/40
18:49:53fbuilesvah, the idea is to run away from C then?
18:49:57dbussinkfbuilesv: there's nothing...
18:50:14dbussinkfbuilesv: well, what i want to create is a Moment object that has to ivars, secs and usecs
18:50:20dbussinkin ruby that is
18:50:23brixenljulliar: sweet, I'll take a look in just a bit
18:50:27fbuilesvdbussink: I see
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18:50:37brixendbussink: sorry, dun know much about this thing you call "time" :P
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18:50:52ruedbussink: Erm, too many () I meant. Weird keyboard
18:50:55dbussinkfbuilesv: now Time is highly platform dependent, it basically wraps around gettimeofday / mktime etc.
18:51:01brixendbussink: actually wrangling with getting nested describes working in mspec. I'll trade ya :)
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18:51:33dbussinkrue: some of those can go indeed
18:51:42dbussinkbrixen: i think i'll pass ;)
18:51:56dbussinkfbuilesv: but now mktime() for example does timezone conversion
18:52:07dbussinkfbuilesv: if you add for example half a year to a time object
18:52:11ljulliarbrixen: yes please let me know if what i written is OK as this is my first contribution to rubyspec
18:52:14dbussinkit's probably gonna be in a different timezone
18:52:15rueI would elide the begin block too, it may be nonobvious
18:52:23rueLogic-wise seems reasonable
18:52:31fbuilesvdbussink: interesting
18:52:41dbussinkfbuilesv: mktime() handles that
18:52:48dbussinkbut there is no way to extract that behavior
18:53:02dbussinkfbuilesv: the tzinfo gem has a bunch of stuff
18:53:17dbussinktogether with this nasty piece of code i should have the tools to get it working :)
18:53:25fbuilesvdbussink: heh, good luck :)
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18:59:55brixenljulliar: I've left a comment on the ticket
19:00:00brixenljulliar: what's your github username?
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19:02:06neelancehi
19:02:26brixenhey neelance
19:02:29ljulliarbrixen: ljulliar on github
19:02:38neelancewho has written the debugger part of rubinius?
19:03:19brixenneelance: agardiner
19:04:45brixenljulliar: when I run the argf specs separate, they all pass, but when I run all of rubyspec after adding them, I'm getting some IO failures
19:04:54brixenljulliar: are you seeing anything like that?
19:05:22ljulliarI had a problem of this kind this morning but I thought I fixed it
19:05:32ljulliarAre you running on Linux?
19:05:58ljulliarbrixen: your comments are all valid
19:06:05ljulliarI'll made the changes
19:06:09neelancebrixen: can i contact him in some way? is he in this channel sometimes?
19:06:18brixenljulliar: running on os x intel
19:06:40brixenneelance: haven't seen him in a while, but you should be able to email him at his commit email address
19:06:42ljulliarmay be we should name the helper fixture_file rather than simply fixture ?
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19:07:15brixenljulliar: sure, we could. why don't you start with it in ARGFSpecs and then we can add it to mspec later
19:07:58neelancebrixen: okay, thx
19:08:40brixenneelance: n/p
19:08:43brixenljulliar: http://rafb.net/p/1yAWS497.html
19:09:03ljulliarbrixen: what command are your running 'rake spec:full' ?
19:09:15brixenljulliar: bin/mspec -tr . in rubyspec repo
19:11:10brixenljulliar: ok, I pushed your patch and added you to github
19:11:38brixenljulliar: ping me if you can't take a look at those issues today
19:11:54brixenljulliar: also, you should join #rubyspec
19:14:01ljulliarbrixen: can you attach the error log to the ticket?
19:14:07brixensure
19:14:18ljulliarbrixen: I'll take a look at it tomorrow. I have to go now
19:15:09brixenk
19:15:48ljulliarbrixen: quick question I'm running the spec from the frozen version in rubinius. could this be the reason why I don't see the error you are seing
19:16:06brixenpossibly, yes
19:16:21brixenyou should run spec/ruby or use a separate rubyspec clone
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22:33:06rueEveryone else playing with their new iPhones?
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22:36:03VVSiznah, iPhones are for weak-minded!
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22:53:42dbussinkno new iphone for me (yet)
22:58:17ezmobiusme neither, my old iphone feels new with the app store and i dont want to stand in line
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23:03:39dbussinki want one without a subscription, the provider here has like one blindspot and that at the office i work :P
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23:08:59rueTwo minds about it myself. Thinking it over until next week for when I made my reservation
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23:33:16goodneyevan: ever get your phone?
23:34:17brixengoodney: he did
23:34:41goodneyI only had one report, from the line before the phone
23:34:46goodneydid he port his #?
23:35:16brixennot sure
23:38:08goodneyguess we'll find out shortly enough...
23:38:24goodneyevan: also, we're confirmed for 2 of us at the 7pm thing.
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