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| 17:41:01 | dbussink | Defiler: can i file a complaint against vlad? :P |
| 17:50:13 | brixen | dbussink: vlad is most surely perfect, have you not considered the authors? :P |
| 17:50:51 | dbussink | brixen: that's why i want to complain ;) |
| 17:50:57 | brixen | heh |
| 17:51:16 | dbussink | it breaks my merb / dm project, apparently it sets some global vars that collide |
| 17:51:30 | dbussink | set :repository causes havoc to datamapper |
| 17:51:39 | brixen | hmm |
| 17:51:46 | brixen | sounds like dm has a problem :) |
| 17:52:07 | dbussink | well, i guess vlad also should set it in a bit more friendly place |
| 17:52:15 | dbussink | but both are to blame indeed i think |
| 17:52:30 | brixen | how are you liking working with merb / dm? |
| 17:53:43 | dbussink | it works pretty well |
| 17:53:54 | dbussink | dm is still rough on the edges though |
| 17:54:07 | dbussink | merb is a lot more mature |
| 17:54:18 | brixen | cool |
| 17:55:06 | dbussink | two known bugs that still bother in me in dm now |
| 17:55:15 | dbussink | didn't dig into it deep enough to fix it though |
| 17:55:25 | dbussink | i'm just contributing specs that show failures :P |
| 17:56:00 | dbussink | brixen: on something different, do you know someone who is really good at web / application design? |
| 17:56:03 | dbussink | just graphical stuff |
| 17:57:50 | brixen | hmm, off hand not really |
| 17:58:29 | brixen | you could see if shane has time for freelance: http://theresistancearmy.com/ |
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| 18:02:21 | dbussink | i always do my best on designing, but it never results in anything satisfying :P |
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| 20:28:20 | dbussink | sunday quietness |
| 20:29:27 | headius | mmm yes |
| 20:29:50 | headius | commit log has been pretty quiet too |
| 20:30:41 | headius | seems like only one actual fix in the past ten days |
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| 20:48:58 | dbussink | headius: ppl here need to actually do something :P |
| 20:49:15 | headius | ahh, is that how it works? |
| 20:52:10 | dbussink | i don't know ;) |
| 20:52:35 | dbussink | i'm just a person with a full time job that contributes something when i feel like doing something |
| 20:54:00 | dbussink | who's getting semi frustrated with trying to find a good web designer :P |
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| 21:09:36 | rue | dbussink: I am looking for a cleric |
| 21:09:47 | dbussink | rue: also good to have :) |
| 21:09:59 | rue | Apache is sucking the joy of life from me, I figure Turn Undead might work |
| 21:10:12 | dbussink | but i already have a minion at my job :P |
| 21:10:33 | dbussink | he also calls himself that sometimes, so i feel free to do too :) |
| 21:11:47 | brixen | rue: saw an interesting pres by roy fielding at oscon about apache |
| 21:11:54 | rue | I have been having a hard time with motivation outside of my narrow little field. Once I get done with stupid Apache crap for the day, I do not really feel codey |
| 21:11:59 | brixen | rue: while he was talking about the strong points of the arch, I had your voice in my mind ;) |
| 21:12:37 | rue | brixen: Oh? It was not the one about redesigning HTTP so that it sucks similarly to Apache for overall relative better Apache performance? |
| 21:12:44 | brixen | heh |
| 21:12:58 | brixen | it was about software arch that encourages collaboration |
| 21:13:04 | rue | Hm |
| 21:13:28 | rue | I find the Apache software "arch" to encourage homicidal mania |
| 21:13:28 | brixen | heard lots of folks talking about building services with xmpp instead of rest too |
| 21:13:35 | brixen | rue: hah! |
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| 21:13:48 | rue | Incidentally, Batman was really good |
| 21:13:54 | brixen | oh man, I want to see it |
| 21:14:24 | rue | I was concerned that everyone was hyping Ledger because, well, he is dead; but he was _really_ good |
| 21:14:46 | dbussink | batman was great |
| 21:14:54 | dbussink | "i can make this pencil disappear" |
| 21:15:17 | rue | Yeah, an awesome scene :) |
| 21:16:26 | rue | Away a bit, eating |
| 21:16:37 | dbussink | the whole audience was kinda surprised when that body hit the window too :P |
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| 21:41:32 | rue | dbussink: I particularly liked how it seemed at one stage that the film was over but there was practically another half |
| 21:42:06 | dbussink | yeah, i had the feeling like, ok, let's see what the twist is going to be |
| 21:42:08 | dbussink | ended way too quickly there |
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| 21:46:04 | brixen | hey, movie snitches, take it to pm :P |
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| 21:46:22 | dbussink | brixen: didn't see it yet? |
| 21:46:25 | brixen | nope |
| 21:46:56 | dbussink | ah, we'll refrain ourselves from giving too much spoilers |
| 21:47:02 | brixen | heh |
| 21:47:30 | brixen | rue: we need to fix up these cpp tests |
| 21:47:38 | brixen | I'm completely spoiled with our specs |
| 21:47:48 | brixen | pure agony running these cpp tests |
| 21:48:56 | brixen | builtin_dir.cpp:28: internal compiler error: Bus error |
| 21:48:57 | brixen | Please submit a full bug report, |
| 21:49:05 | brixen | fun |
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| 21:52:26 | rue | brixen: You probably do not have a CDL, that is why the bus error |
| 21:52:56 | brixen | cdl? |
| 21:53:29 | rue | waits |
| 21:53:58 | brixen | hahh |
| 21:54:01 | brixen | damn you rue |
| 21:54:10 | brixen | pets google |
| 21:54:13 | rue | :D |
| 21:54:42 | brixen | would be hilarious if that was the response to the bug report |
| 21:54:51 | brixen | "Please send a current copy of your CDL" |
| 21:55:11 | rue | Haha |
| 21:56:03 | rue | Maybe we can start a new artform consisting of fake bug reports employing puns |
| 21:58:33 | brixen | I think I need to resurrect cspec |
| 21:58:52 | brixen | rue: where's the code you showed me for driving the cpp tests? |
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| 22:06:21 | rue | brixen: That must have been someone else |
| 22:08:17 | brixen | a previous lifetime perhaps |
| 22:12:08 | rue | brixen: Do you mean the code generation stuff I was doing for my specs? |
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| 22:14:22 | brixen | rue: yeah |
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| 22:16:51 | rue | I am not sure if it is useful here, it just wraps some of the nasty parts of the spec framework. The other bigger part was supporting mocking out C functions |
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| 22:17:08 | brixen | ahh |
| 22:18:51 | rue | It also has a separate construct, "topic", for setting up the test class |
| 22:18:58 | rue | http://gist.github.com/2808 |
| 22:23:01 | brixen | interesting |
| 22:23:15 | rue | If you refresh, I pasted the generated code at the bottom |
| 22:26:12 | brixen | hmm, I wonder if using collector/emitter objects, this could be done 100% within existing rspec-style specs |
| 22:26:35 | rue | It would require writing a C++ spec framework |
| 22:26:45 | rue | Which, mind you, is not a terrible idea |
| 22:26:52 | brixen | are you using cxxtest? |
| 22:27:00 | rue | No, CppSpec |
| 22:27:05 | brixen | ahh |
| 22:27:20 | brixen | did you consider cxxtest? |
| 22:27:28 | rue | Very briefly |
| 22:28:08 | rue | I knew I would have to write a top layer (or write an entirely new C++ version) so I picked the one closest to normal spec ideas |
| 22:28:29 | rue | Even so, I have had to have messed with the code itself |
| 22:28:34 | brixen | I see |
| 22:28:42 | rue | - 1 tense |
| 22:29:15 | brixen | is that the plupluperfect :) |
| 22:29:39 | brixen | still makes sense, which is interesting from a grammar standpoint |
| 22:30:04 | brixen | the thing I most dislike is the granularity atm |
| 22:30:14 | rue | Perfect# |
| 22:30:23 | brixen | no simple way (yet) to just run part of the tests |
| 22:30:30 | rue | Lack thereof, then? |
| 22:30:58 | rue | That should be possible to do by futzing with the runner generator |
| 22:31:18 | brixen | yeah, it is |
| 22:31:42 | brixen | we had a rack task for it that got slaughtered in the great Rakefile massacre |
| 22:32:01 | brixen | rake task actually |
| 22:32:19 | brixen | but perhaps a rack-based test server isn't a bad idea |
| 22:32:42 | rue | Bad, no, orthogonal yes :) |
| 22:34:18 | brixen | grabbing some food, bbiab.. |
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