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| 00:24:12 | brixen | mri's pack code is actually fairly simple |
| 00:24:29 | brixen | and our rewrite in ruby fails because it abandons the abstractions used in mri |
| 00:24:48 | brixen | probably because the author didn't want to call methods or something |
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| 00:47:09 | evan | brynary: perhaps a healthy refactoring is needed |
| 00:47:11 | evan | er. |
| 00:47:14 | evan | brixen: ^^ |
| 00:47:39 | brynary | evan: I could stand to do some refactoring right now as well. thanks :) |
| 00:47:46 | evan | heeh |
| 00:48:45 | evan | refactoring all around! |
| 01:01:51 | brixen | evan: yes, I think so |
| 01:02:19 | boyscout | Added CI tags for Array#pack failures on PPC. - 63ced0d - Brian Ford |
| 01:02:19 | boyscout | Merge branch 'capi' - f0a619a - Brian Ford |
| 01:02:27 | brixen | dammit |
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| 01:03:38 | boyscout | CI: f0a619a success. 1438 files, 7098 examples, 23339 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
| 01:03:57 | brixen | evan: how's the conf? |
| 01:04:16 | evan | conf starts tomorrow |
| 01:04:20 | brixen | ahh |
| 01:04:21 | evan | we arrived this morning |
| 01:04:27 | evan | chillin' with obie and desi now |
| 01:04:30 | evan | working on my slides |
| 01:04:33 | brixen | cool |
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| 13:51:20 | AlHafoudh | hi all |
| 13:51:29 | AlHafoudh | how can i compile my .rb to bytecode? |
| 13:51:42 | AlHafoudh | i cannot find it |
| 13:52:03 | macournoyer | to view the bytecode? |
| 13:52:24 | macournoyer | when you run it, it will cache the bytecode in a .rbc file |
| 13:52:29 | AlHafoudh | i this of rubinius as JVM for java |
| 13:52:39 | AlHafoudh | you compile the .java file to .class |
| 13:52:43 | AlHafoudh | and then run it |
| 13:52:49 | AlHafoudh | rubinius does the same? |
| 13:53:01 | macournoyer | eh well, you can run the .rbc file I think |
| 13:53:36 | AlHafoudh | macournoyer: but how do i get the .rbc file |
| 13:53:49 | macournoyer | just run the file |
| 13:53:53 | macournoyer | rbx yourfile.rb |
| 13:54:05 | AlHafoudh | yrah |
| 13:54:10 | AlHafoudh | and when how i run it? |
| 13:54:16 | AlHafoudh | when=then? |
| 13:54:24 | macournoyer | rbx yourfile.rbc |
| 13:54:29 | macournoyer | but why you want to do this? |
| 13:54:40 | AlHafoudh | why not? |
| 13:54:52 | AlHafoudh | i think bytecode it faster than parsing the script |
| 13:55:06 | macournoyer | rubinius will use the .rbc file if it's present |
| 13:55:11 | macournoyer | to need to be specific |
| 13:55:31 | macournoyer | we're lucky, it does all the magic for us |
| 13:55:38 | AlHafoudh | :) |
| 13:55:54 | AlHafoudh | we are deciding to write software in C++ or in Ruby |
| 13:56:00 | AlHafoudh | i am for ruby |
| 13:56:05 | AlHafoudh | because of modularity |
| 13:56:18 | AlHafoudh | my colleague its always talking about speed |
| 13:56:39 | macournoyer | depends what you're building |
| 13:56:53 | AlHafoudh | something like nagios |
| 13:57:54 | macournoyer | can build in Ruby, and speed critical parts in C++ |
| 13:57:56 | libc | AlHafoudh, most likely the slowest part will be the database, that holds results |
| 13:58:15 | macournoyer | everyone will be happy |
| 13:58:19 | AlHafoudh | libc_: yes, i argued with this also |
| 13:58:33 | AlHafoudh | macournoyer: yeah, i was thinking about that too |
| 13:59:15 | rue | Specifically, write everything in Ruby and *move* stuff to C++ if algorithmic optimisation is not enough |
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| 14:12:05 | dbussink | you can also do algorithms with RubyInline |
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| 14:12:12 | dbussink | but this smells like premature optimization |
| 14:16:57 | rue | Inline is C, I see very little advantage to it for algorithm design |
| 14:27:24 | AlHafoudh | ok guys, thank you |
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| 16:36:54 | scoopr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKySEUrP7LA |
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| 16:45:41 | rue | "let's talk about Java stuff" |
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| 17:24:07 | rue | Man, it is a sweltering 8 degrees outside |
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| 19:22:38 | oda | how to run all the frozen specs |
| 19:22:50 | brixen | bin/mspec |
| 19:23:35 | oda | ah, thanks :) |
| 19:24:12 | brixen | n/p |
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| 19:25:22 | oda | how do you develop rubinius, brixen? working on a specific part or everything |
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| 19:27:20 | brixen | I work on various things, lots of spec stuff and Ruby kernel |
| 19:27:33 | brixen | lately I've been getting the C-API working better |
| 19:27:45 | brixen | are you wondering what you'd like to work on? |
| 19:27:57 | oda | yes. a start point |
| 19:28:15 | brixen | did you have a look at doc/contributing.txt? |
| 19:28:30 | oda | reading |
| 19:28:46 | oda | is it upto date? |
| 19:28:52 | brixen | pretty much |
| 19:29:16 | brixen | what's your experience with ruby? |
| 19:29:35 | brixen | do you have some ruby projects that you've written? |
| 19:29:42 | oda | I use ruby for 2 years |
| 19:29:47 | brixen | cool |
| 19:29:53 | brixen | any personal projects? |
| 19:30:09 | oda | not yet on personal projects. |
| 19:30:18 | oda | rubinius is interesting |
| 19:30:25 | brixen | yeah, it is |
| 19:30:39 | oda | bin/mspec spec/frozen/1.8/array which returns 0 files, 0 examples, 0 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
| 19:30:45 | brixen | what do you usually work on in ruby? |
| 19:30:57 | brixen | there's no 1.8 dir |
| 19:31:03 | brixen | try bin/mspec core/array |
| 19:31:29 | oda | thanks, it works |
| 19:33:45 | boyscout | File.size? accepts File arguments as well as strings. - 82f2ee5 - Tilman Sauerbeck |
| 19:35:08 | boyscout | CI: 82f2ee5 success. 1438 files, 7099 examples, 23340 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
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| 20:08:52 | libc | evan, hi, should I push this http://pastie.org/436194 ? … you mentioned you have an idea to JIT… |
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| 20:18:42 | brixen | libc: evan is at a conference |
| 20:18:52 | brixen | I'd hold off pushing that until you talk to him |
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| 20:19:22 | libc | brixen, I know =) I kinda hope he'll read when back |
| 20:19:32 | brixen | ok |
| 20:19:51 | brixen | grabbing some food, bbiab.. |
| 20:20:08 | libc | brixen, I'm not going to push anything but trivial changes… do not need to remind ;-) |
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| 21:04:34 | rue | libc: You externed send_slowly() to be directly callable? |
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