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| 02:04:43 | benschwarz | evan, brixen : http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbtemp.html |
| 02:17:50 | brixen | benschwarz: nice! |
| 02:18:11 | brixen | however, I'm going to go hang out in the 5C rain |
| 02:18:13 | benschwarz | brixen: I think you should come and witness Australian summer |
| 02:18:18 | brixen | or there abouts |
| 02:18:22 | brixen | I know, I should |
| 02:18:31 | brixen | gotta run, hot date! :) |
| 02:41:27 | rue | benschwarz: Bastard. http://weather.msn.com/tenday.aspx?&wealocations=wc%3aFIXX0002&q=Helsinki%2c+FIN&setun it=C#details |
| 02:41:49 | benschwarz | rue :? |
| 02:41:51 | benschwarz | :/ |
| 02:42:11 | benschwarz | it was too hot before, now its just right |
| 02:43:13 | rue | I would trade but I do not really fancy 19 hours in a plane :) |
| 02:44:23 | rue | A trip down would be nice, though...I was planning on doing a huge sweep, first go to Japan, then to .au + .nz, then back via Vietnam/Thailand/India or something |
| 02:44:35 | rue | Until that I must ride in the snow :P |
| 03:57:01 | benschwarz | rue: Snow would be a novelty |
| 04:06:00 | tarcieri | :( snow |
| 04:06:04 | tarcieri | far too much of it here |
| 04:26:25 | slava | heh |
| 04:26:33 | slava | cracks open a heineken |
| 04:27:19 | slava | tarcieri: I got a 12 pack cos I'm going to a party tonight, but it won't fit in my backpack and its a bit unweildy to carry around (I gotta walk to the train station and stuff) |
| 04:27:32 | slava | tarcieri: so I'm going to lighten the load a little before I leave, first |
| 04:27:40 | tarcieri | noice |
| 04:27:53 | tarcieri | it's weird, I went to Amsterdam and Heineken served draught tasted like ass |
| 04:28:01 | tarcieri | come back to the states and had a few and it was pretty good out of a bottle |
| 04:28:07 | tarcieri | drinking the new batch of New World Porter |
| 04:29:21 | slava | usually if draft beer tastes bad it means they don't keep the tubes and pumps in clean condition |
| 04:29:38 | tarcieri | it tastes bad to me because it's a lager :) |
| 04:30:03 | tarcieri | I dunno, it wasn't "bad", it was just relatively flavorless |
| 04:30:15 | tarcieri | compared to what you get in the states in bottles, which is at least a bit skunky |
| 04:30:24 | tarcieri | I like it skunky |
| 04:30:24 | slava | never heard skunky applied to beer |
| 04:30:28 | tarcieri | haha |
| 04:30:33 | slava | are you getting your intoxicants mixed up? |
| 04:30:38 | tarcieri | no :) |
| 04:30:43 | slava | lights up a beer and takes a hoot |
| 04:30:50 | tarcieri | awesome |
| 04:30:55 | tarcieri | smoking beer rules |
| 04:31:03 | slava | beats drinking weed any day |
| 04:31:08 | tarcieri | indeed |
| 17:43:49 | dbussink | evan: you there? |
| 17:44:04 | boyscout | std::tr1::hash is a feature added in GCC 4.1 - 8000972 - Dirkjan Bussink |
| 17:48:49 | boyscout | CI: rubinius: 8000972 successful: 3022 files, 11697 examples, 35898 expectations, 0 failures, 0 errors |
| 17:49:52 | dbussink | brixen: ping |
| 18:52:39 | brixen | dbussink: sup? |
| 18:53:42 | dbussink | brixen: was wondering, have been testing with centos 5.4 for #153, but that still has 1.8.5 as the default ruby |
| 18:54:07 | dbussink | brixen: but it all works if i add the RSTRING_PTR macro conditionally to melbourne, are you ok with that? |
| 18:54:38 | dbussink | brixen: https://gist.github.com/59bbb1445a3370cd3137 |
| 18:55:23 | dbussink | and we probably want to replace the llvm prebuilt for linux, the one i have now on that centos machine works for newer gcc versions too, but not the other way around |
| 18:59:46 | brixen | why not 1) upgrade ruby or 2) use rvm? |
| 18:59:57 | brixen | 1.8.5 in ridiculously old |
| 19:00:07 | dbussink | brixen: because i just used the standard toolchain to see if that works |
| 19:00:18 | wayneeseguin | ouch |
| 19:00:28 | brixen | well, who cares about the standard tool chain? ;) |
| 19:00:32 | dbussink | brixen: this is just for some testing |
| 19:00:39 | brixen | we support bootstrapping with only certain versions of MRI |
| 19:00:44 | dbussink | brixen: and this was the fastest way to get it running |
| 19:00:55 | brixen | it's not hard to upgrade or use rvm |
| 19:01:03 | dbussink | true, but it takes longer |
| 19:01:09 | dbussink | compiling stuff etc |
| 19:01:14 | wayneeseguin | grabs popcorn |
| 19:01:16 | brixen | I'm not totally opposed to it, but I don't really want to support 1.8.5, no |
| 19:01:24 | brixen | dbussink: what takes longer? using rvm? |
| 19:01:46 | dbussink | well, i choose that it should install ruby so it was already available |
| 19:01:51 | wayneeseguin | Considering the rvm path makes things easy (yes you have to wait for the compiles) supporting 1.8.5 might not be so hot |
| 19:02:00 | dbussink | but this is more whether such additions are worth it or not |
| 19:02:10 | brixen | not IMO |
| 19:02:26 | wayneeseguin | Why o Why won't CentOS update that... :/ |
| 19:02:34 | brixen | no kidding right |
| 19:02:37 | wayneeseguin | Our servers run Cent, and the first thing we do is uninstall ruby |
| 19:02:38 | dbussink | wayneeseguin: i have no clue about that |
| 19:02:44 | brixen | think of all the issues |
| 19:02:52 | dbussink | i just installed it to check out this issue on github |
| 19:03:07 | dbussink | which did expose the valid issue with the llvm prebuilts |
| 19:03:21 | brixen | "life moves pretty fast, if you don't upgrade your software, you might miss it" |
| 19:03:32 | brixen | -- ferris beuler |
| 19:03:41 | wayneeseguin | lol |
| 19:03:49 | brixen | er bueller |
| 19:03:58 | brixen | but you all know who I meant :) |
| 19:04:14 | dbussink | i've actually had a similar question for the do_* drivers, someone used them on centos too |
| 19:04:41 | brixen | this is 2010, time to EOL support for 1.8.5 |
| 19:04:55 | dbussink | i added the macro's then, just because that was the only thing, i don't explicitly test it |
| 19:05:16 | brixen | well, this is how cruft accumulates |
| 19:05:27 | brixen | there's no compelling reason to support 1.8.5 |
| 19:05:41 | brixen | could just as easily detect in Rakefile and bail out |
| 19:05:55 | dbussink | brixen: btw, is the compat.h header still useful in vm/capi/mri? it defines stuff like this too ;) |
| 19:06:02 | brixen | "Sorry, get with the times, your MRI version is too damn old. Cheers"; exit 1 |
| 19:06:24 | brixen | dbussink: compat.h defines alternative APIs |
| 19:06:31 | dbussink | brixen: you can't change the llvm prebuilt right? |
| 19:06:50 | brixen | it's not an issue of STRING_PTR being defined, it's an issue of adding code to support ancient crap |
| 19:06:58 | brixen | dbussink: I cannot |
| 19:08:18 | brixen | anyway, it's not a huge deal, but I know how easily cruft accumulates and I try hard to avoid it |
| 19:08:42 | dbussink | well, i wanted to ask before just adding it |
| 19:08:46 | brixen | but, I gotta run some errands, so see y'all later cowboys and cowgirls |
| 19:08:55 | brixen | dbussink: yeah, appreciated |
| 19:27:57 | rue | It would probably be a more productive use of time to have CentOS upgrade |
| 19:28:12 | rue | 1.8.5 is probably ridiculously unsafe if that is of any concern |
| 19:32:22 | dbussink | rue: oh, it's not that i use it for anything |
| 19:32:39 | dbussink | rue: and imho it's retarded they still have 1.8.5 as the default |
| 21:44:17 | dbussink | brixen, evan: ping? |
| 22:03:27 | rue | Nope, 'tis a business now and weekends are not business hours :) |
| 22:04:22 | dbussink | rue: this is when i have a bit of time to contribute stuff :P |
| 22:05:30 | rue | Lucky for you, Java has been leeching my soul as of late so I do not really do anything with code on my spare time. |
| 22:05:48 | rue | Comma should probably be a dot there. |
| 22:07:54 | dbussink | rue: why did you let java do that to you then? |
| 22:08:50 | rue | Have to eat |